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		<title>My Interview with SMT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was recently interviewed by Lori Champion from SMT (The Professional Society for Sales &#38; Marketing Training) as part of the ramp-up for their annual conference in Orlando October 14 &#8211; 16, 2009.  I&#8217;ll be keynoting at the event.  The topic will be Sales Excellence 2012: Overcoming Tough Obstacles,  Achieving Measurable Results. Lori&#8217;s interview begins: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently interviewed by Lori Champion from SMT (The Professional Society for Sales &amp; Marketing Training) as part of the ramp-up for their <a href="http://smt.org/events.html" target="_blank">annual conference</a> in Orlando October 14 &#8211; 16, 2009.  I&#8217;ll be keynoting at the event.  The topic will be <em>Sales Excellence 2012: Overcoming Tough Obstacles,  Achieving Measurable Results.</em></p>
<p>Lori&#8217;s interview begins:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What do a CEO, a Trumpet player, a computer software programmer, a VP of Sales, and an expert in landing &#8220;very big contracts&#8221; have in common? They describe the background of one man and he is Dave Stein! Let’s add &#8220;Opening Key Note Speaker&#8221; to the list. He is, after all the Key Note for SMT’s 2009 annual conference in Orlando, Florida this October.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I had the privilege of sitting down and speaking with Dave about a week ago. I wanted to find out more about this very versatile CEO who will be addressing us this fall.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Dave Stein is the CEO and Founder of Massachusetts based ES Research Group, Inc. (ESR) which provides Gartner-style, independent advice about sales training programs, sales performance improvement tools and approaches. It also does  evaluations and comparisons of the companies that provide them.</p>
<p>Read the rest of the interview <a href="http://www.smt.org/news/031609b.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Strategy 18: Become An Expert At Competitive Positioning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, I have a proposition for you. I had a really bad experience with Dearborn Trade Press (now Kaplan Financial Publishing) with my book, How Winners Sell, Second Edition. It&#8217;s no longer in print, although companies seem to be able to find copies somehow when I come in to present at their sales kick-offs and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://davesteinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/goliath.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1943" style="border:1px solid black;margin:4px 6px;" src="http://davesteinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/goliath.jpg" alt="" width="216" height="271" /></a>Hey, I have a proposition for you.</p>
<p>I had a really bad experience with Dearborn Trade Press (now Kaplan Financial Publishing) with my book, <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0793185696/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link" target="_blank">How Winners Sell, Second Edition</a>.</em> It&#8217;s no longer in print, although companies seem to be able to find copies somehow when I come in to present at their sales kick-offs and other events.  (I will write about the whole nasty Kaplan situation one day.  In the meantime, anyone considering publishing with Kaplan needs to give me a call.)</p>
<p>I was thinking about putting <em>How Winners Sell</em> up on Amazon&#8217;s Kindle. After a long, long effort, I finally got the rights back.  I wrote the Second Edition in 2004, but most of it is still very relevant.</p>
<p>The proposition.  Here is a free chapter.  All I ask is if you get some value from it and are interested in reading the whole book on either the Kindle or an e-Book format, let me know.  I may decide to republish it.</p>
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<h2><strong>Strategy 18: Become an Expert at Competitive Positioning</strong></h2>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I get a big thrill when I watch a high-integrity, seasoned sales pro competitively position his company and offering. It may happen during a presentation or during a sales call as objections are raised by the buyer.</p>
<p>When you think about it competitive positioning begins when you formulate your strategy. From that point onward, your messaging, talking points and objection handling are driven off the same thing—the unique value you can provide to your client.</p>
<p>Here are some examples of how winners I&#8217;ve worked with masterfully handle competitive positioning:</p>
<h3><strong>Situation 1: Selling Against Goliath </strong></h3>
<p>If you sell for a smaller company that competes against the big guys, the age-old story of David and Goliath might come to mind. In this story, the giant, Goliath, was beaten in a fight by the small boy, David. I often see &#8220;Goliaths&#8221; beaten, but it takes flawless execution of a well-designed plan.</p>
<p>The most important thing of all when selling against a much bigger competitor is to be certain that if you meet or exceed all the prospect&#8217;s requirements, that size—for size&#8217;s sake—does not matter. That&#8217;s an issue of qualification. You may have the best product, innovative service capabilities, committed people, stellar customer satisfaction levels, top product quality, most respected investors or anything else that you consider of value, but if size matters, little else will measure up. And if size does matter, and you can&#8217;t convince your prospect fairly quickly that it shouldn&#8217;t, you need to get out of there—<strong></strong>and quickly on to another opportunity. Know your prospect&#8217;s history regarding doing business with smaller companies. It may mean nothing to them, since they do it all the time. On the other hand, you may be the first and may have a long, bumpy road ahead.</p>
<p>What all this means is that there are certain opportunities for which you should not compete, because you can&#8217;t win them. Sorry, but that&#8217;s a fact.</p>
<p><strong>Now What Do You Do?</strong></p>
<p>You&#8217;re going to need to influence your prospect&#8217;s decision criteria, so that the perceived value of your competitor&#8217;s size as well as other size-related capabilities are diluted, neutralized or, in the best case, seen as a disadvantage. Many salespeople are accustomed to highlighting a competitor&#8217;s weaknesses. In the situations where you are competing against a bigger company, you will (professionally and subtly) dilute their strength.</p>
<p>Here is a simple, well-proven example. Let&#8217;s say I sell for a smaller professional services firm and I am up against a major player. Based upon preferences and needs of the buyers, I may decide to use the &#8220;small-fish-in-a-big-pond&#8221; approach.</p>
<p>It goes like this: &#8220;Ms. Prospect. There are few people who would not be impressed by my competitor&#8217;s size, global reach and financial as well has human resources. I&#8217;m sure they proudly reference some very prominent customers. However, you might consider that a project such as yours, although highly critical for you, might very well not have the same level of importance for them and therefore may not generate the ongoing attention within executive levels of their company that their premier customers&#8217; projects would. It&#8217;s only natural&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>From that point, you would discuss how you would meet their technical requirements and establish a business relationship going forward, stressing attention that would be paid to the progress by your executives. You&#8217;d convince them that your company&#8217;s success would depend directly on their success, not the other way around. You&#8217;ll be portraying them as big fish in a small pond, with the driving message being how important their business is to you.</p>
<p>If you are effective with this approach, you will have moved down in importance the size and impressiveness of their customer list and up in importance the attention paid to them by your executives as well as your company&#8217;s interest in their success.</p>
<p>Here are challenges you might face in a David and Goliath situation and some alternatives to consider:<span id="more-1939"></span></p>
<p><strong>Challenge: </strong>The competition questions your viability to the prospect. &#8220;What would happen to you, Mr. Prospect, if they were to go out of business or be acquired?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Your Response: </strong>Don&#8217;t wait for this to happen, as it most likely will. Immunize. Exploiting their opponent&#8217;s size is the first card most salesreps who sell for large companies—the Goliaths—play against the smaller guys. You need a solid story, prepared in advance &#8211; concise and compelling &#8211; which must be credibly and sincerely delivered first by you, then echoed by your most senior executives. Mitigating perceived risk is on the critical path to success when competing against a much larger rival. Don&#8217;t wait.</p>
<p><strong>Challenge: </strong>The competition attempts to expand the scope of the evaluation into areas where you don&#8217;t have a solution.</p>
<p><strong>Your Response:</strong> Again, pretty standard practice for the big guys. Alert your prospect in advance that this may happen. Praise their efforts in defining their requirements as well as they have. Ask if they are prepared to have the scope of their initiative, project or investment substantially expanded. If they say no, alert them that other vendors may employ this &#8220;sales&#8221; strategy to differentiate themselves as well as to increase the size of their contracts.</p>
<p>Please understand that I never advocate negative selling, mud slinging or &#8220;slamming the competition.&#8221; On the other hand, when you have built relationships in your accounts with influential people who are willing to help you, you&#8217;ll need to provide them with the messages—the sound bites and talking points—to position your company advantageously.</p>
<p><strong>Challenge:</strong> The competition attempts to impress your prospect with hordes of resources to demonstrate their prowess and convey a &#8220;safety in numbers&#8221; message.</p>
<p><strong>Your Response: </strong>Again, prepare your prospect in advance that this may happen. Qualify them on this issue, again. Suggest that these bigger companies have extra resources on board just to impress prospects to make a sale. If you know your competitor&#8217;s bid will come in considerably higher than yours, you may want to subtly suggest that using resources to win business may be a reason that their overhead is so high. And, remind the prospect that if they do go with your competitor, the meter will start running.</p>
<p>This approach is mandatory when you compete against companies who lavish prospects with toys, gifts, free trips and other goodies to try to influence their decision.</p>
<p><strong>Challenge: </strong>The competition, because they are bigger, is willing to guarantee results in a way that you cannot.<br />
Your Response: They may be able to guarantee that their product will get installed (or service delivered) within a certain time, but what if they don&#8217;t? The customer may not have to pay the vendor any more cash, but what about lost business opportunities, reduced customer satisfaction levels and employee morale if things go wrong? Will the guarantee cover that?</p>
<p>Tough qualification combined with strategic competitive selling does work. After confirming that size did not matter in a face-to-face meeting with a division president of a $5 billion corporation, my client, the CEO of a small enterprise software company commanded that his team pursue a $2 million contract competing against a $750 million rival. Now there is a David and Goliath scenario.</p>
<p>I coached that sales team during the nine month sales cycle. Among other things, we diluted the competition&#8217;s apparent strengths and portrayed their large size as a liability, which in this case it really was.</p>
<p>My client&#8217;s team outsold the competition and won the business. And earned a lot more business after that, because they delivered what they promised to their customer. As the CEO related to me, elated with a contract five times larger than anything his team had secured up to that time, &#8220;the most important thing for me is that this process is repeatable.&#8221;  [Note: The small company is DBM Systems, Inc., based in Cambridge, Ontario. The CEO was Duncan McLeod.  I did not provide those details in my book.]</p>
<h3><strong>Situation 2: Outselling a Competitor Who Slashes Their Price to Win</strong></h3>
<p>You&#8217;ve just read some suggestions on how to compete against a bigger company who uses their size and strength to win &#8211; the Goliath. Now, how do you compete against the smaller, more agile David out there who, for example, drastically discounts at the last minute to win business?</p>
<p><strong>Red Alert.</strong> First of all, once you learn that one of your competitors in a deal has &#8220;bought&#8221; business in the past at a price you could not (or would not) meet, your alert status should immediately shift to red.</p>
<p>Remember, early in evaluation cycles prospects may say that price is a consideration, but not first on their list. Later on, once they have ignored or devalued any unique capabilities that your product or service can provide—to the point where they &#8220;can see no measurable difference between your offering and your competitor&#8217;s,&#8221;—price gets elevated to the number one consideration. We&#8217;ve all seen it happen. By that point it&#8217;s generally too late to remedy the situation. You&#8217;re trapped. So recognizing potential situations early on where a buyer will buy on price must become second nature.</p>
<p>Here are some recommendations that will point you in the right direction:</p>
<p><strong>Qualify.</strong> In any competitive sales situation you have to monitor the prospect&#8217;s decision criteria like a pilot checks her instruments— ever-vigilantly. During the course of an evaluation decision criteria often change. In fact, aren&#8217;t we often the ones who attempt to effect that change to gain competitive advantage?</p>
<p>Among the most critical of all decision criteria these days is price. What are the key evaluators&#8217;, buyers&#8217;, recommenders&#8217; and decision makers&#8217; requirements and expectations with regard to price today? If you are just getting engaged with a prospect and their number one decision criteria is price, you (or your management) will have to decide whether it&#8217;s even worth competing. Clearly, knowledge of your competitor&#8217;s historic actual selling price will be critical in this decision. So will an understanding of your prospect&#8217;s recent buying patterns with regard to price.</p>
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<li>Buyers focused on price de-emphasize or entirely ignore factors such as:</li>
<li>Supplier product or service quality</li>
<li>Supplier viability</li>
<li>Supplier post-sales support capabilities</li>
<li>Post sales costs (contributing to total cost of ownership)</li>
<li>The knowledge and experience a vendor can bring forth</li>
<li>Areas of additional value that you may be able to provide above and beyond what they have specified</li>
<li>Quality of vendor personnel</li>
<li>References</li>
</ul>
<p>Address the issue head on and early. &#8220;Is your company going to make a decision based entirely or substantially on price?&#8221;</p>
<p>And please, make sure you are asking these questions of, and selling to, decision makers. All this matters very little to the people at lower levels in organizations.</p>
<p><strong>Educate yourself.</strong> Here are just some of the questions for which you need answers to outsell a competitor that dramatically discounts to win business:</p>
<ul>
<li>Is their discounting tactical or, in the case of some very successful companies, strategic &#8211; a key component of a go to market strategy supported by their business plan? (It&#8217;s hard to compete against Sam&#8217;s Price Club on price&#8230;)</li>
<li>When do they offer these drastic discounts and under what conditions? How do they dilute the value of what you are selling in the prospect&#8217;s eyes?</li>
<li>How well do they deliver post sales service?</li>
<li>How often do they produce new products or upgrade their services?</li>
<li>What is the satisfaction level of their customer base?</li>
<li>What is their financial position? If they are publicly held, look at their P&amp;L, Balance Sheet and Cash Flow Statement for the most recent quarter and going back in time. (If they are privately held, get your CFO to create a pro forma set of financial statements that might represent what that competitor&#8217;s financial position might look like. It provide you with insights into where that competitor&#8217;s vulnerabilities lie.)</li>
<li>What do you know about their human resources? Look into staff and executive attrition rates, quantity and quality of SMEs (subject matter experts), levels of staffing, and customer care hours &#8211; anything that will point toward discount-caused reduced margins impacting operating effectiveness.</li>
<li>Look at their corporate culture. What do they value? Integrity? Quality? Are they doing the right things for building a long, profitable future or are they highly opportunistic, with little regard to what will happen tomorrow?</li>
<li>Uncover what the competition uses to deflect their prospects from exploring the areas listed above. In technology, you&#8217;ll often find that the lowball competitor has the sexiest demo, for example.</li>
</ul>
<p>One client did a terrific job of figuring out that their competitor&#8217;s service and support resources were stretched very thin. Highlighting their own strengths in these areas pointed the prospect in the right direction. As a result of a bit of probing, the prospect found that my client&#8217;s competitor couldn&#8217;t appropriately support them post-sale. &#8220;If they can&#8217;t bring people to the party now when they are selling to us, it&#8217;ll only get worse if we become their customer,&#8221; the prospect told our rep. Bingo.</p>
<p><strong>Discover And Quantify The Value.</strong> Whether or not you suspect that a low-price competitor will be included in the bidding process, you&#8217;ll need to quantify the value of your offering &#8211; in terms of financial return. When you are competing against someone who drastically discounts, it&#8217;s especially important to get close to the prospect and really understand their requirements. Not only will that enable you to better position your solution, but, more importantly, you&#8217;ll be able to uncover areas of potential additional value for the customer that can be derived from the differentiators that you are selling. If these differentiators are linked to financial impact for the prospect, they are not likely to become expendable nice-to-haves, eliminated from consideration in what might turn out to be a commodity buy. Even if the prospect doesn&#8217;t want to or can&#8217;t invest in that added value now, you&#8217;ve expanded their vision past what your competitor has done and have set yourself up for add-on business later.</p>
<p><strong>Educate and Position. </strong>Winners who are really good at competitive selling subtly but definitively alter their prospect&#8217;s perception that buying at the lowest price is the prudent thing to do. You can really only do this effectively when you are selling at the appropriate executive levels.</p>
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<li>Talk to the buyer about the challenging business conditions that face all of us, and the natural tendency to buy at the lowest price.</li>
<li>Talk about companies in the prospect&#8217;s as well as your own industry who have gone out of business as a result of tactical discounting, and the impact that had on those companies&#8217; customers. (You need to do some homework here.)</li>
<li>Implore the prospect to ask questions of the other contenders that will expose weaknesses that result from tactical discounting. (See &#8220;Educate Yourself,&#8221; above.)</li>
<li>Educate the prospect on the differences between price, cost and business value and the impact on of those factors on their business. Understand the prospect&#8217;s own business model, their culture and how they sell to their customers so you can link your approach to theirs. (If they sell a commodity themselves, at the lowest price, you may have a serious challenge.)</li>
<li>Immunize the prospect in advance against what will likely be a lowball bid by your competitor. Explain how, when, and why it will happen. Prepare the prospect for what you know will come. Don&#8217;t just sit there and wait.<br />
Convincingly reduce what will likely be price differentials into meaningful, real terms. &#8220;Since there is typically a five-year life cycle associated with my product, and it will, admittedly require potentially a $240k additional investment, I figure that comes to 4k per month, which, you have to agree is less than a rounding error (or full-time employee) in terms of the business value we&#8217;ve been talking about.&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Get creative. </strong>If you haven&#8217;t tried risk-sharing, phased deliveries, guarantees or extended warrantees or other creative approaches that will enable you to win the business without discounting, you need to do some brainstorming with your team. Very often a cash strapped competitor who has been discounting to win business falls flat on their face when asked to match such creative selling.</p>
<p>Few of us can afford to sit back and wait for the competition to slash their price and walk away with the business. Understand your customer, your competitor, and your value. Then sell.</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#888888;"><span style="color:#000000;">© 2004 &#8211; 2009 — Dave Stein </span></span><span style="color:#888888;"><span style="color:#000000;">— All Rights Reserved</span></span><span style="color:#888888;"></span></p>
<hr />That&#8217;s Strategy #18 of the 21 that constitutes <em>How Winners Sell.</em> Please let me know your thoughts.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having been a professional trumpeter, early on I learned the word &#8220;chops&#8221; as it is used to describe a player who has a powerful embouchure (the use of the muscles surrounding the mouth in order to create a sound on a wind instrument).  Here is Japanese trumpeter Eric Miyashiro providing a dazzling rendition of Over [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been a professional trumpeter, early on I learned the word &#8220;chops&#8221; as it is used to describe a player who has a powerful embouchure (the use of the muscles surrounding the mouth in order to create a sound on a wind instrument).  Here is Japanese trumpeter Eric Miyashiro providing a dazzling rendition of <em>Over the Rainbow</em> (that perhaps only a trumpter player could love).</p>
<p>Both the sound quality and video are poor in this example, but if you listen all the way through, especially the last half, you&#8217;ll hear what super chops applied to the trumpet sound like.  Eric is a disciple of Maynard Ferguson (1928-2006) who pioneered playing jazz in the upper registers of the trumpet.</p>
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<p>With an ear sensitized to the word &#8220;chops&#8221;, I&#8217;ve heard it applied to many different skills over the years:  Tiger Woods&#8217;s golf game, Obama&#8217;s facility with the TelePrompTer, Yo-Yo Ma&#8217;s fingers on his cello, NASCAR drivers, a strong software programmer.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a question for you: Which of your salespeople have chops?  In what areas are those chops applied to winning business?  Competitive chops?  Presentation chops?  Negotiation chops?  Can you isolate any specific aspect of their approach, skill or behavior?  Can those be understood and taught to others?</p>
<p>One of my trumpet teachers years ago, the highly esteemed Roy Stevens, had a wonderful Great Dane, whose name was Chops.  Cute!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got eight minutes to spare, here is Eric playing <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJjVBsr3-Ms" target="_blank">MacArthur Park</a> recorded at a rehearsal in London.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1633" style="border:1px solid black;margin:2px 4px;" src="http://davesteinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/freddie.jpg" alt="" width="130" height="206" /><strong>UPDATE 12/29/2008:</strong></p>
<p>I just learned that Freddie Hubbard, another trumpet king, died today.  Here is <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnSYHzyjZcM" target="_blank">a fine example</a> of Freddie, his own unique style, and chops galore!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian Lambert of ASTD hosted a webinar this week where I presented The Care, Feeding (and Training) of Salespeople.  It&#8217;s targeted at learning and training organizations leaders and managers. Registration will get you access to an archive of the event.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="TblTitleFont">Brian Lambert of ASTD hosted a webinar this week where I presented <a href="https://astdevents.webex.com/astdevents/lsr.php?AT=pb&amp;SP=EC&amp;rID=49048577&amp;rKey=9C2C29239AA570C2" target="_blank">The Care, Feeding (and Training) of Salespeople</a>.  It&#8217;s targeted at learning and training organizations leaders and managers.</span></p>
<p><span class="TblTitleFont">Registration will get you access to an archive of the event.<br />
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When people find out I&#8217;m a pilot, some invariably ask, &#8220;Could you land a jetliner if something happened to the pilot?&#8221;  I&#8217;ll answer that shortly. You might think that such a sitation never arises.  But it does.  Claire McBride sent me this article just a few minutes ago, Pilot sought help of passengers to land [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://davesteinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/mvy-hya1.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1355" style="border:black 1px solid;margin:3px;" src="http://davesteinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/mvy-hya1.jpg" alt="" width="316" height="230" /></a>When people find out I&#8217;m a pilot, some invariably ask, &#8220;Could you land a jetliner if something happened to the pilot?&#8221;  I&#8217;ll answer that shortly.</p>
<p>You might think that such a sitation never arises.  But it does.  Claire McBride sent me this article just a few minutes ago, <a href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1120/1227136328391.html?via=mr" target="_blank">Pilot sought help of passengers to land jet</a>, from yesterday&#8217;s Irish Times.</p>
<p><a href="http://davesteinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/mvy-hya.jpg" target="_blank"></a>In February 2002, Ronald Crews, a Cape Air pilot, suffered a low blood-sugar episode in the middle of a 15-minute evening flight from Martha&#8217;s Vineyard to Hyannis.  I should mention that there is only one pilot on Cape Air flights.  According to the <a href="http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080322/NEWS/803220323" target="_blank">Cape Cod Times</a>,</p>
<p class="articleGraf" style="padding-left:30px;">Crews ignored a flashing red light and beeping alarm on board the twin-engine Cessna he was flying. Soon, the plane jerked side to side and up and down, according to court papers. When Crews passed Hyannis pointed toward the open ocean, the four panicked passengers asked him where he was going.</p>
<p class="articleGraf" style="padding-left:30px;">One of the four others on board was Melanie Oswalt, a Cape Air security supervisor who, as a pilot-in-training, had just 48 hours of flying experience. She called Cape Air on her cell phone but lost the signal. She moved to the co-pilot&#8217;s chair to help, but Crews pushed her aside, court papers said.</p>
<p class="articleGraf" style="padding-left:30px;">Oswalt told the three businessmen on board that she was a student pilot and the only way they could land safely was to restrain Crews, who was incoherent, and fly to Provincetown Airport. Two male passengers grabbed Crews&#8217; neck and arms, subduing the pilot, court papers said.</p>
<p class="articleGraf" style="padding-left:30px;">The Provincetown Airport was closed, and no one was on the ground to assist Oswalt. The Cessna&#8217;s landing gear hadn&#8217;t lowered. Still, she skidded the plane down safely on its belly on a grassy strip next to the runway. </p>
<p class="articleGraf" style="padding-left:30px;">&#8230;In U.S. District Court in Boston, Crews was sentenced to 16 months in prison and two years supervised release for lying to the government about the diabetes that caused his in-flight collapse, according to federal prosecutors.</p>
<p class="articleGraf">I fly Cape Air regularly from Martha&#8217;s Vineyard to Boston.  I always tell the other passengers that I&#8217;m a pilot and would like to sit in the co-pilot&#8217;s seat.  Needless to say, they are delighted with that idea.  Could I land that plane?  Sure.  But that&#8217;s no Boeing 747-400. </p>
<p class="articleGraf"><a class="image" title="Air Canada flight 143 on the tarmac at Gimli" href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/wiki/Image:Gimli_glider.JPG" target="_blank"><img class="thumbimage alignright" style="border:black 1px solid;margin:3px;" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/Gimli_glider.JPG/180px-Gimli_glider.JPG" border="0" alt="" width="180" height="106" /></a>On a related subject, did you know that in July 1983 a Boeing 767-200 jet, <a title="The Gimli Glider" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider" target="_blank">Air Canada Flight 143</a>, ran completely out of fuel at 41,000 feet?   The crew was able to glide the aircraft safely to an emergency landing at Gimli Industrial Park Airport, a former airbase at Gimli, Manitoba. </p>
<p class="articleGraf">None of the 61 passengers were seriously hurt during the landing.</p>
<p class="articleGraf">Before September 11, I would ask for and almost always be given permission to sit in the jump seat on the flight deck during flights and landings.  JFK and Auckland, NZ were my favorites.  There were never any emergencies on any of the flights where I would have been the first passenger on line to take over the controls. </p>
<p class="articleGraf">So, could I land a large, commercial jetliner?  I am very confident that if I had very competent coaching and guidance from air traffic control I could.  Without that?  It&#8217;s highly likely that a significant amount of metal would get bent. </p>
<p class="articleGraf">People always ask me if I&#8217;ve had any &#8220;scary moments&#8221; flying my plane.  Yes I have.  If you want me to write about one or two of those, leave a comment.</p>
<p class="articleGraf">More to read on the subject of civilians landing commercial airplanes: <a href="http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2007/12/21/askthepilot258/" target="_blank">Ask the pilot</a></p>
<p class="articleGraf" style="text-align:right;">Photo of the Gimli Glider, bent metal and all: Wikipedia</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This blog will not become a platform for me to attack individuals (or companies, for that matter), even when they are dead wrong.  But everyone has a limit.  I reached mine today.   I&#8217;m genuinely looking for your opinion on how to handle the situation I&#8217;m about to describe. I spend a lot of time learning, reading, thinking, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog will not become a platform for me to attack individuals (or companies, for that matter), even when they are dead wrong.  But everyone has a limit.  I reached mine today.   I&#8217;m genuinely looking for your opinion on how to handle the situation I&#8217;m about to describe.</p>
<p>I spend a lot of time learning, reading, thinking, pondering, strategizing, researching, and speaking with customers, sales executives, sales reps, sales trainers, and their clients and customers.  I never pirate anyone else&#8217;s content.  When I do discuss someone else&#8217;s content, during a speech, or in a seminar, I <em>always</em> provide the source.  That&#8217;s the professional (and legal) thing to do.  Other&#8217;s don&#8217;t take <a href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/05/09/sales-training-companies-from-a-unique-perspective-part-2/" target="_blank">that approach</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.allbusiness.com/marketing-advertising/4290669-1.html" target="_blank">written before</a> about a well-known management consultant in Boston who has a website containing dozens of pirated articles, tools, and presentations. He removes the name of the person who actually created the content, along with any copyright information.  He&#8217;s got a few of my articles on his site.  He has a dozen or so other sales experts&#8217; articles and tools on his site as well.  This person not only represents all this pirated content as his own, but refuses to remove it from his site. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what happened today:  I got an email from a client whom ESR is assisting with a sales training company evaluation.  They received an email (below) from a well-known sales trainer and author who had been told that he was no longer in the running.  My client told me that as they read the email, they thought of me.  It&#8217;s no wonder. </p>
<p>Try this:  Open up another browser window and bring up <a href="http://www.howwinnerssell.com/strategies/2006-06.html" target="_blank">this newsletter</a> I wrote in June 2006.  (I recently <a href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/07/09/if-i-have-to-sit-through-one-more-sales-training-class-part-1/" target="_blank">republished it</a> in a slightly different form on this blog.)  You can compare the email sent to my client (below) to my <strong>copyrighted</strong> content in the newsletter.  In the newsletter, where prompted, click on the link to read the rest of the article. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the email the sales trainer sent to my client:<br />
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><strong>From:</strong> Xxxx Yzzz [mailto:XYzzz@snnnnnn.com]<br />
<strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, September 02, 2008 1:23 PM<br />
<strong>To:</strong> [VP of Sales of ESR's Client Company]<br />
<strong>Cc:</strong> The two people responsible for the evaluation<br />
<strong>Subject:</strong> Sales Training-Methodology</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Hi [VP of Sales],</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">I had another conversion with your team regarding the need for adopting a sales training approach for the [your] sales organization. From my experience with taking three software companies&#8217; [sic] public and developing  a training approach  that has been taught in ten countries with unsurpassed results, I thought I would offer a perspective you might value.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="background-color:#ffff00;">Sales professionals need and have the right to be educated, trained, motivated, and prepared to leave a training session with improved selling capabilities, no matter how much experience they have.</span> The world we live in has changed, how business is done has changed, so it only makes sense that individuals and organizations consider how they need to change their sales approach</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">While [your company] is in the mode of cycling through /evaluating sales training vendors,  I believe  you are hoping to provide your team with a repeatable and successful sales approach they will use effectively and <span style="text-decoration:underline;">buy into</span>.  This being the case you might want to rethink your notions about the big methodology programs.  Even though this might have served you well in the past, as you know a lot of things of changed lately.  In this market most companies are not going to benefit for years from a mostly rehashed big sales methodology class.  Let me be direct:  From my experience and from speaking with thousands of sales people worldwide, the &#8220;Big Methodology Sales Training&#8221; approach doesn&#8217;t really offer the reps what they want and need. </p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="background-color:#ffff00;">I recently spoke with a colleague who is a partner in a tech consulting firm.  I know him from his past life as a sales rep.  He worked for big name technology companies and was consistently the top performer.  He is a sales heavy-hitter if there ever was one.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="background-color:#ffff00;">We were discussing sales training.  He said, &#8220;I can&#8217;t tell you how many sales training programs I&#8217;ve sat through, I&#8217;ve experienced every major methodology vendor.  The programs were too long, didn&#8217;t provide me with value, and frankly were an incredible waste of time.&#8221;  Here is what got me.  &#8220;I was offended that management would think so little of me to force me to sit through that.&#8221; </span> I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I have heard that exact same thing over the years, not to mention I experienced the same type of thing in my sales career. This is why 10 years ago I didn&#8217;t just buy a sales training methodology franchise and instead developed the [name of his sales training program].</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Do sales professionals need sales training? Sure. Most will admit they do. But the training they need has to provide them with almost immediate business value&#8211;it&#8217;s go to help them do a couple of things&#8211;sell more immediately and offer an approach they can buy into and use over and over again. In general &#8216;methodology sales vendors typically violate the sales professional&#8217;s code on many levels.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><strong>Here&#8217;s are some of the violations:</strong>  [From this point on, it was just a cut &amp; paste.]</p>
<ul style="padding-left:60px;">
<li>Being trained by someone who hasn&#8217;t been in the field selling for years.</li>
<li>Being trained by someone who doesn&#8217;t know anything about how your buyers buy.</li>
<li>Being trained by someone who clearly doesn&#8217;t understand how tough your competitors are.</li>
<li>Being trained by someone who is more focused on entertaining you than helping you get your job done, so they get good marks on the post-program evaluation.</li>
<li>Being trained by someone who tells you what to do, but <strong>not how to do it</strong>.</li>
<li>Being trained by someone who lectures every moment without the necessary balance which would include workshops, exercises, discussions, debates, etc.</li>
<li>Forced to sit in a training class where 80% of what you learn is irrelevant to you, even though it may be to some of the people in the program.</li>
<li>Being trained on a skill or a process only to find out after the program that the tools are too cumbersome to use.</li>
<li> Being trained by a person whom you don&#8217;t respect and who doesn&#8217;t have the track record your team will respect.</li>
<li>Spending three days in a class where you&#8217;ve gotten an hour of value.</li>
<li>Coming out of a class confused about what to do next.</li>
<li>Not having an integrated program for services.  </li>
<li>Not taking time to understand how you sell currently.</li>
<li>Not relating to the people in the class.</li>
<li>Training the same methodology they used and trained 5, 10, or even 20 years ago.</li>
</ul>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">There are more but these are all things to seriously think about.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><strong><strong>Why is this going on?</strong></strong></p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">When violations like this happen, there is generally plenty of blame to pass around.  But the blame rarely falls in the lap of the sales professional.  As I said your team has the right to be educated, trained, motivated, and prepared to leave the training session with improved selling capabilities, no matter how much experience they have. They have the responsibility of walking into a training program with an open mind, ready and willing to learn, share their experiences, and to do what it takes to elevate themselves to get to the next level of sales performance.  They do not have the responsibility of having their time wasted and their experience and intelligence insulted.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Here are some possible explanations:</p>
<ul style="padding-left:60px;">
<li> Sales management want  to do &#8220;something&#8221; so they invest in a big methodology training that will only truly be used if forced on the team..  [The trainer inserted a few bullets in my list to support his incorrect assertion.]</li>
<li>Sales management didn&#8217;t have their training requirements match the sales people on the front lines who are responsible for putting the wood on the fire.  They have quotas and want help to exceed their numbers. When there is a heterogeneous sales team, for example experienced and new reps, or reps who sell different types of products into different markets, there is a big challenge.  A big one.  If it is not managed properly, the program will be irrelevant to half the audience half the time.</li>
<li>There is weak buy in to the foundation of the methodology and related processes /measurements because the team doesn&#8217;t see how it will immediately impact their results, so the training has no foundation.  It&#8217;s just a bunch of unrelated skills.  Some of those may help win some business, but in the long term, they won&#8217;t amount to much. </li>
<li>The sales training vendor did not provide a competent facilitator that could relate to the group with a track record of unsurpassed sales success.</li>
<li>The training program content was not relevant to the team&#8217;s current pipeline of prospects or issues they are facing.  It may have come off-the-shelf, or have been designed for customers in another industry.</li>
<li>The content may have been relevant, but it was not delivered to you in a way that would promote learning.</li>
<li>Training the sales force was a strategy but was really needed as skills training with the tactics of how to succeed.</li>
</ul>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"> <strong><strong><span style="background-color:#ffff00;">To the Point</span></strong></strong> [ESR has been using "To the Point" in all our content since we started the company.  This is the smoking gun!]</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Getting sales training right can be a challenge and confusing. If you have the sales team applying the right skills that meet today&#8217;s market conditions everyone wins.  I have found methodology sales training takes a pretty generic approach like training someone to answer a support call or balance the books.  Many companies try, but get it all wrong. </p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">You might consider offering [your] sales teams the skills they need to improve their results as a first step. The [trainer's program] training offers a solid skills training that certainly could be augmented at a later date if you deemed that to be a requirement.  Frankly I think you will find the skills, the approach, the culture change, the integration to other parts of the company, and the gained results to be very satisfying and you won&#8217;t need to go any further. All I can tell you, better let him tell you, [name of executive] at [well-known company] had no sale methodology- completely has embraced [trainer's sales methodology] <strong>and last quarter attributes [$x]</strong> of additional business to the approach. There are others that can share similar results. They too thought perhaps having a big methodology vendor was the right first step but then happily learned skills training showed much more results.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">I hope you don&#8217;t find this email too assertive but I felt strongly about some the things I heard you are considering and wanted to at least share my perspective and years of experience for your benefit. Please let me know if you would like to discuss this. I would very much like to be a big part of the [client's company name] solution and help your team.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Best Regards,<br />
Xxxx Yzzzzz<br />
Trainer&#8217;s website<br />
Office: xxx-xxx-xxxx<br />
Cell:    xxx-xxx-xxxx </p>
<hr />I am very serious in asking you, my readers, this question:  How do you think I should handle this situation?  Please leave a comment, send me an email (dave.stein @ ESResearch.com) or give me a call.  Thanks.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very pleased that traffic on this blog has grown significantly since I created it last April.  With that in mind, I suspect some of you who are new to this blog may have missed some of the earlier posts. </p>
<p>Here are the most popular, based upon this blog&#8217;s Top Posts stats:</p>
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<li><a href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/04/29/observing-a-sales-training-program/" target="_blank">Observing a Sales Training Program (Part 1)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/04/21/sales-training-revenue/" target="_blank">Sales Training Company Revenue Models</a></li>
<li><a href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/05/22/best-sales-training-company/" target="_blank">Come On, Dave. Which Is The Best Sales Training Company?</a></li>
<li><a title="The Fragmented Sales Training Industry" href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/05/13/fragmented-sales-training-industry/" target="_blank">The Fragmented Sales Training Industry</a></li>
<li><a title="Sales Training Companies from a Unique Perspective (Part 1)" href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/05/05/sales-training-companies-from-a-unique-perspective-part-1/" target="_blank">Sales Training Companies from a Unique Perspective (Part 1)</a></li>
<li><a title="Are Results on the Agenda?" rel="bookmark" href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/06/20/sales-kick-off-meetings/" target="_blank">Sales Kick-off Meetings: Are Results on the Agenda?</a><a href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/05/05/sales-training-companies-from-a-unique-perspective-part-1/"></a></li>
<li><a title="What’s Wrong With Articles Containing Sales Tips?" href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/06/18/sales-tips-articles/" target="_blank">What’s Wrong With Articles Containing Sales Tips?</a></li>
<li><a title="Your Customer Is Learning How to Kick Your Butt" href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/06/17/your-customer-is-learning-how-to-kick-your-butt/" target="_blank">Your Customer Is Learning How to Kick Your Butt</a></li>
<li><a title="Selling Through the Customer’s Organization (Chart)" href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/07/22/selling-through-the-org-chart/" target="_blank">Selling Through the Customer’s Organization (Chart)</a></li>
<li><a title="Sales Performance Measurement" href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/06/19/sales-metrics-sales-measurement/" target="_blank">Sales Performance Measurement</a><a href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/07/22/selling-through-the-org-chart/"></a></li>
<li><a title="We Live in a World That Requires Revenue" href="http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/07/08/we-live-in-a-world-that-requires-revenue/" target="_blank">We Live in a World That Requires Revenue</a> (Humorous Bonus!)</li>
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<p>Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>A New Way to Get Sales and Marketing Aligned</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all this talk about sales and marketing alignment, I figured the best way to get sales and marketing aligned is to morph a sales guy into a marketing guy and visa versa.  That way they&#8217;ll both understand what life is like as a member of the other team. So Brian and I tried it [...]]]></description>
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<p>With all this talk about sales and marketing alignment, I figured the best way to get sales and marketing aligned is to morph a sales guy into a marketing guy and visa versa.  That way they&#8217;ll both understand what life is like as a member of the other team.</p>
<p>So Brian and I tried it out, just to see.</p>
<p>Let us know what you think.</p>
<p>Check out my <a href="http://www.esresearch.com/e/home/document.php?dA=Brian_Carroll" target="_blank">podcast interview</a> with Brian.</p>
<p>Morphing courtesy of <a href="http://www.MorpheusSoftware.net">www.MorpheusSoftware.net</a></p>
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		<title>To: Blog Lurkers / Subj: What Are You Thinking?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robin Fray Carey from The Customer Collective and I have been exhanging emails. TCC is a fine example of a Web 2.0 community.  I&#8217;m pleased to be part of it.  I had asked Robin a question about the demographics of the 3,000 or so users on her site.  It seemed to me that they were mostly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_545" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 250px"><a rel="http://flickr.com/photos/sheasphotos/2327725855/" href="http://flickr.com/photos/sheasphotos/2327725855/" target="_blank"><img class="size-medium wp-image-545    " style="border:0;margin:4px;" src="http://davesteinsblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/2327725855_5e6164e7a0_m1.jpg?w=240" alt="Is that you lurking on my blog?" width="240" height="180" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Is that you lurking on my blog?</p></div>
<p>Robin Fray Carey from <a href="http://www.thecustomercollective.com" target="_blank">The Customer Collective</a> and I have been exhanging emails. TCC is a fine example of a Web 2.0 community.  I&#8217;m pleased to be part of it. </p>
<p>I had asked Robin a question about the demographics of the 3,000 or so users on her site.  It seemed to me that they were mostly sales trainers and consultants.  Robin said the trainers and consultants are the open &#8220;critics,&#8221; but there were plenty of sales and marketing execs who were &#8220;lurkers.&#8221; </p>
<p>Lurkers!  Being fairly new to blogging, that term caught me off guard.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker" target="_blank">Lurker</a>.  Now that I think about it, I&#8217;m certainly guilty of lurking on some blogs and social networking sites.</p>
<p>Those of you who visit this blog either regularly or rarely, please take a minute and leave a comment to a post now and then.  The blog stats show this blog has been steadily increasing in traffic since I started it last April, so I know you&#8217;re out there. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be equally as delighted whether you support or reject my position on the subjects I write about.  I&#8217;m just interested in what you&#8217;re thinking.  And I know other visitors to this blog would be, as well.</p>
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