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	<title>Comments on: When Salespeople Leave Their Jobs</title>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
		<link>http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/06/25/when-salespeople-leave-their-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the defense of salespeople, more and more employers are demanding proven track records of individual sales for consideration. These reports are all we have to show all the blood, sweat, and tears we have put into our jobs. Salespeople are judged by numbers and in hard economic times like these, having a record of high sales will increase chances of employment and pay. In reality, a lot of times this information can be found on the internet or is leaked by higher-ups in the company. Is it really going to put my company at risk if the competitor knows my individual sales or sales of the region when they probably already know the entire company&#039;s revenues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the defense of salespeople, more and more employers are demanding proven track records of individual sales for consideration. These reports are all we have to show all the blood, sweat, and tears we have put into our jobs. Salespeople are judged by numbers and in hard economic times like these, having a record of high sales will increase chances of employment and pay. In reality, a lot of times this information can be found on the internet or is leaked by higher-ups in the company. Is it really going to put my company at risk if the competitor knows my individual sales or sales of the region when they probably already know the entire company&#8217;s revenues?</p>
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		<title>By: John Caddell</title>
		<link>http://davesteinsblog.esresearch.com/2008/06/25/when-salespeople-leave-their-jobs/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>John Caddell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, Dave. The issue i have is that the same companies who welcome confidential information brought to them by a candidate are indignant when that employee shares their information with his/her next employer.

My point is that salespeople who use confidential information as currency are unethical, and companies that accept confidential information are also unethical. Both unethical practices have to be addressed, or the problem will persist.

Let me tell a story. Back when I worked for a company you know that starts with a big A, we had a certain systems integrator &quot;partner.&quot; This partner was always coming to me offering insight on our competitors, for whom they also served as partners. At the same time, they wanted to engage on some of our most strategic undertakings (like the outsourcing cost model, probably the most proprietary item we had).

I told them I didn&#039;t want to hear about my competitors. I didn&#039;t trust their information or motives.

I also told them to stay out of our cost model. Whatever insight they could add to it was more than offset by my certainty that they&#039;d use some of that information as currency with my competitor.

Soon, they stopped offering me competitive insights. But I never gave them access to our cost model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, Dave. The issue i have is that the same companies who welcome confidential information brought to them by a candidate are indignant when that employee shares their information with his/her next employer.</p>
<p>My point is that salespeople who use confidential information as currency are unethical, and companies that accept confidential information are also unethical. Both unethical practices have to be addressed, or the problem will persist.</p>
<p>Let me tell a story. Back when I worked for a company you know that starts with a big A, we had a certain systems integrator &#8220;partner.&#8221; This partner was always coming to me offering insight on our competitors, for whom they also served as partners. At the same time, they wanted to engage on some of our most strategic undertakings (like the outsourcing cost model, probably the most proprietary item we had).</p>
<p>I told them I didn&#8217;t want to hear about my competitors. I didn&#8217;t trust their information or motives.</p>
<p>I also told them to stay out of our cost model. Whatever insight they could add to it was more than offset by my certainty that they&#8217;d use some of that information as currency with my competitor.</p>
<p>Soon, they stopped offering me competitive insights. But I never gave them access to our cost model.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Thanks for your comment.  I like your idea.

The problem continues to be that there are enough companies out there that would welcome confidential information brought to them by a job candidate.

The confidential information doesn&#039;t have to be a document or computer file.  It can take the form of a sales person sharing with a competitor the issues that their former company is having--angry customers, quality or customer service problems, law suits, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  I like your idea.</p>
<p>The problem continues to be that there are enough companies out there that would welcome confidential information brought to them by a job candidate.</p>
<p>The confidential information doesn&#8217;t have to be a document or computer file.  It can take the form of a sales person sharing with a competitor the issues that their former company is having&#8211;angry customers, quality or customer service problems, law suits, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: John Caddell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Caddell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, one thing that would really help this situation is companies refusing to accept new hires using confidential information brought from the prior company.

It takes two to tango, and if companies encourage or accept their new salespeople leveraging the old company&#039;s confidential data, they shouldn&#039;t be surprised when the same trick is pulled on them  when that person leaves. [I have seen this happen more than once.]

Here&#039;s an idea that would stop the practice in its tracks--don&#039;t hire anyone who offers to bring pipeline reports, customer data, etc., along with them when hired.

regards, John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, one thing that would really help this situation is companies refusing to accept new hires using confidential information brought from the prior company.</p>
<p>It takes two to tango, and if companies encourage or accept their new salespeople leveraging the old company&#8217;s confidential data, they shouldn&#8217;t be surprised when the same trick is pulled on them  when that person leaves. [I have seen this happen more than once.]</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an idea that would stop the practice in its tracks&#8211;don&#8217;t hire anyone who offers to bring pipeline reports, customer data, etc., along with them when hired.</p>
<p>regards, John</p>
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